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Chinese Les Paul | eBay Guitars Part 3

If nothing else I have found that the Chinese are relentless…

Chinese Les Paul Guitar Review Part 3

This all started here: DIY Guitar Kits Review I bought this really cheap kit that was billed as “High Quality Unfinished Guitar” and  Since looking at the two eBay guitar kits I was subsiquently sent and reviewed here in the past month I have come to believe these unfinished guitars were their own “factory Rejects” that they were selling as “Kits”, because aside from the glaring flaws, the penciled numbers did not match either body pocket or neck tenon… And really… They are crap even for dirt cheap. When the company that sells them caught wind of my review they really went quite out of their minds

My last conversation after publishing LES PAUL GUITAR KIT REVIEW PART 2 | MADE IN CHINA. Went like this:

Dear Friend, We have refunded your PayPal account. Please friend tell us how we can improve our product, we are a new factory and have many problems and look forward to providing a better product for review.Song

 Rather than be a jerk and leave poor Song hanging I contacted a friend who really is a professional guitar maker and lutier and asked him to read my review and comment on what would need to be done to fix these El cheapo kits, then I sent his suggestions along to my buddy Song. So a short while latter I received this email… I’m not entirely sure if it is the same conversation with the same person… I mean, Song may very well have changed his name to Susan… This is how it went:

 Hi Dear Friend,Thank you for interesing our guitars and thank you for the informations how we can improve product if you like the ebay of guitar, I will send this guitar to you for a review. We will send this guitar to you at once Pls see the attachment of pictureIf you order 5 guitars per month, I will give you 5%discount, if you order 10 guitars per month i will give you 10%discount  without ebay so ebay fee is very high. There is no shame in owning Chinese guitars we pay them very good. Pls see the new quality and add them to your website this is the very best quality gold top guitar kit we send you to inspect. tracking isEE085380085CNSusan.

And my reply:  What?


Today USPS Left this EMS Parcel on my Doorstep…

Tape is Cheap in China
Freshly Arrived from The Peoples Republic of China... Tape is Cheap in China.


Having spent some time conversing with these people for a while now about my first review of their product and the subsequent second review of another example of they’re guitar kit. I’m pretty sure that they are not using the word “friend” as a term of endearment… Okay maybe I’m paranoid but this package could contain anything… Perhaps a Midget Ninja Assassin?… Possible… The little psycho bugger will jump out and say “AMERICAN! WHY U NO HAPPY?!” then stab me in the neck with a rusty pot-metal hat pin.

… So I left it on the porch for a while to think about it… Later that evening my wife said “Honey aren’t you going to bring that inside and open it?” I suppose I over reacted a bit because my answer was:  “What Are You Crazy?…  Don’t you know that package came from The Peoples Republic of China?

She brought it inside and made me open it “See honey it’s just another guitar”. 

Fake Gibson Les Paul Gold Top

Fake Gibson Les Paul GT
Chinese Fake Gibson Les Paul GT... Gee Thanks.

  I now understand why the binding on the unfinished guitars was so lousy… You’re just supposed spray right over it. The sticker that passes for the Gibson inlay is kind of pretty though and they’ve gotten better at forging Les Paul’s signature. There is no way to show this in the pictures but the finish on the whole thing is wavy… And lumpy. This “Guitar” weighs 12.5 Lbs already with no hardware as you see it.

Wavy Gold Top Finish
The whole guitar has this wavy finish (very hard to capture on camera)
Fake Gibson GT China Poor Workmanship
There is no excuse for the poor workmanship - China Fake Gibson GT
Fake Gibson Headstock
Fake Gibson Head stock - All of the cuts are like this.
Poorly Set Neck Fake Gibson Binding
Poorly Set Neck - Binding Sanded Crooked - Top Finish Flaws (Again hard to catch)
Counterfeit Gibson guitar Sticker China
Original Gibson Equipment - Bench Tesred Buikkit Approvud - WTF?

After all the hooting and hollering they did about the bad reviews I gave them… I must come to the conclusion that this is the best they can do.


 Sending Your Money to China

Regardless of how I feel about this I believe I have given this Chinese purveyor of inexpensive guitar kits (and apparently Gibson copy guitars) my honest best to represent them exactly how they are… There was no need to fudge the results… Heck I even left out the facts that they forgot to drill for the output jack before they laid the finish on it and that all the frets are popped weird.

 Aside from being of very poor quality these imports are made with zero regard for the environment… While Gibson Guitars today is having it’s problems with the Federal government over the Lacey Act because they allegedly illegally obtaining exotic woods these Chinese Les Paul knock offs come here, breeze right in through customs, free of duty taxes, pirated woods, trademark and patent infringements and all… WTF?

I can understand the allure of buying something for cheap but as the saying goes… You get what you pay for… And in the long run you get what you deserve…  It never struck me as a good idea to buy cheap imports regardless of price vs quality… I’m old enough to remember when we made stuff in this country… I’m also old enough to remember when a guy could work and support his family.

 This isn’t the first time I’ve had dealings with the Chinese and it wont be the last. I work in the Automotive industry and there are many (MANY) components and replacement parts today that are only manufactured in China…You just can’t get them any place else… In the 1980’s and 1990’s it was a counterfeiting problem… Now it’s the only game in town.

 I could probably go on and on about this but chances are you A: Already understand or B: Will never understand… So I guess I’ll just leave it at that.

11 thoughts on “Chinese Les Paul | eBay Guitars Part 3

  1. Naw… It’s Gold the camera does funny things to the color sometimes.

    I have the thing hanging on the wall next to the rest of my axes (real deal Gibsons and a few other weird a$$ guitars) and you know It’s kind of growing on me…

    Perhaps I’ll put some work into this one… Fix the frets… Mini Humbucker with splitting? Badass or a hipshot bridge? Put some kind of Chinese strike in place of the Gibson and rock it…

  2. I too am old enough to remember good times in America. I also have wallowed up to the trough and purchased a Chinese ES335 for 100 bucks. Regardless of the fact that it plays well and sounds neat, it was put together without regard to quality much like the garbage gold top reviewed above. This bogus ES now lives in the USA where it will remain after I’m long gone. Most of these things are going to end up in our landfills. As the Village Idiot mentions, these guitars are using valuable global resources in the worst possible manner, seemingly without regulation.

    It may be better to use Brazilian Rosewood for heating rather than on Chinese instruments. PLEASE DO NOT BUY IMPORT INSTRUMENTS. Do not mistake an import name brand for an American made name brand. These guitars are made by a CNC machine and assembled by non-skilled workers who work under deplorable conditions.

    It’s a shame that two, once great, American guitar Companies are culpable in this crime against quality and our economy. Fortunately, many small time builders have emerged that sell wonderful American handmade instruments affordably. These are instruments with character and quality which will be handed down in your family proudly for generations rather than the cheap Chinese guitar you hang on your wall wonder most times what you were thinking when you bought it.

  3. i own a tattoo studio and ordered a chinese ace frehley to hang on the wall , customs are getting better because they sezied it for being a counterfit out 275.00 so guess ill get a bulldog kit and build one , thanks for the info on the kit,

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